712 shot with an average muzzle velocity of 1,180 fps. Technical innovation must drive it, and function and durability must trump styling, but, ultimately, the styling must be distinctive. Im not a shotgun expert by any means but before I bought the super vinci a few years ago I picked up as many shotguns as I could and that one felt right immediately to me. We found the Browning hit targets hard when the shooter puts the pattern in the right place at the right time. This tendency to shoot low and left went a long way toward explaining why our teams target busting experience with the Benelli was much less than satisfactory. This is a simple function of physics; a lighter gun will deliver more recoil momentum to the shooters shoulder than a heavier gun. You are using an out of date browser. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Poor patterns, weak target hits, and uninspiring features all contributed to our low grade for this shooting tool. Benelli 828U Sport RRP 3,545. The other issue already mentioned is long term durability due to the alloy receiver. The pen allows you to write on the front of your computer without having to make any adjustments to your computer, it also has a rechargeable battery which can last up to 3 hours, and it also has a light. We had plenty of semi-automatics, so we wanted to go in a complementary sector by adding a product that would match the needs of other Benelli customers, said Vignaroli. At the same time, and with a lot less fanfare, over/under manufacturer Browning Arms introduced a field version of its popular Citori Model 725, which is the latest in the Citori Model 25 line that dates back to the 1970s. One was NRA Publications Editorial Director John Zent, an experienced upland hunter and clays shot. Such is the case with the new Benelli Model 828U that made a big splash at the January 2015 SHOT Show. I have only seen one in the wild as well, a guy had one last year at a local shoot, 30 inch tubes, and black reciever, totally different looking gun in person then in videos and internet pictures etc. Benelli has very little experience with over/unders. Be ready for some hate. Its weak, problematic ejection, vulgar aesthetics, high recoil and annoyingly violent gun movement is topped-off with a nosebleed price. Phillips-head screws hold the pad in place, which, once removed, allows access to the Progressive Comfort module. Citing the guns operation as part of the global comfort theme, Vignaroli said the 828Us unique breeching system eliminates the need for a close-tolerance fit at the locking catch, making the gun easy to open. It was the worst over under I've ever shot. AgainI shot a very limited number of times. Benellis Over/Under Shotgun Cant Beat Browning, Low profile silver nitride, with roll engraving, Grade II/III checkered walnut, gloss oil finish. More importantly, everything it makes has the performance to match. Ive been using this pen for several months now (since November or so). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. That's harsh Randy, but I certainly appreciate the thoughts. Have only shouldered one, never had a chance to shoot one. Advertisement Barrel & Receiver The 828U comes with 26, 28, or 30-inch barrels that have three-inch chambers. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Reliability issues, and it was just too light for a serious competition gun. The design provides steel-on-steel lockup that fully contains the forces of firing. The Beretta you have will run circles around it if it fits you. That pattern was 13-87 percent, with 153 hits (28 percent) in the 20-inch center circle. It was the worst over under I've ever shot. My understanding is that there is a major difference in handling and recoil between the 828U and the 828U sport. A transverse passage in each chamber contains a floating pin that is bumped a few thousandths of an inch to actuate sears on the ejector body on either side of the monobloc, causing the extractors to forcefully throw empty hulls free of the gun. The swing was beautiful but the recoil destroyed me. I think it is a decent gun for the money I paid for it. This new field model patterned well, broke targets well, and looked good while doing its job. I doubt anyone would have bet that the most innovative gun of the year would be an over-and-under, but that's what Benelli pulled off with the 828U, earning an Innovator's Award for 2015. Benelli's 828U shotguns deliver mandatory . The lever cocking the firing mechanism felt very solid and is a new concept you don't see on other guns. Archived 828U Sport thread. I do not recall the barrel length of this 828, it is at her place. I have only seen one of the sporting versions in use in the area I shoot. Benelli 828U Black Anodized & Blued 12 Gauge 3in Over Under Shotgun - 28in - A shotgun that feels and shoots like a Benelli from the moment you pick it up to the moment you break it open. The Benelli also failed to eject any of the light loads from the bottom barrel, which caused us to consider whether there was a problem with the impulse-driven ejectors that might require gunsmith work. Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. I hear it's dead easy to disable, but blimey the number of swear words during out 60 clay trying was rather large :-) 2) During our test, there was a case where the gun didn't close. Because of reasons like their better handling ability, two-choke option, and the fact that most clay target shooting is limited to taking only two shots at a time, stackbarrels reign over clays. Says they are LH in 12 gauge, but should give you a feel for the gun and you can order what you want then. Along the way, it earned the respect of a new generation of hardcore duck and goose hunters beset by the same kind of weather and environmental conditions that had caused their fathers to rely on pump guns. JavaScript is disabled. Think I'll just order from soortsmans and they say i can always decline it when it shows up if it's not my cup of tea. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. As noted earlier, this is the latest version of a long line of Browning over-and-unders that have found favor with the shooting public. Barrel lengths offered are 26-, 28-, and 30-inch. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? I think that I had the barrel seared firmly in the receiver, like I said done this many times over quite a few years with other over under without issue. Make one with a steel receiver, adjustable rib 30" and 32" barrels, improve the trigger a little bit, and get rid the funky comb and people would be breaking down their door to buy one. Following the sale of Remington Outdoor Company's assets in September 2020, Vista Outdoor purchased Remington Ammunition. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. With birds in the air, we should note we were particularly impressed with the trigger-pull touch-offs of 4.5 pounds for the bottom barrel and 4.25 for the top barrel. Your email address will not be published. Ive made several small changes to my pen, and these were done using a pen for a few minutes, and then a few minutes of practice until I got the pen ready to use it. I have the model with the silver receiver. I do, but no such luck, nothing on the website as in stock anyways, I'll call to double check. Vignaroli used the term global comfort to describe the 828Us combination of weight, balance and ergonomics. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Realize, too, that this was legitimate wild-bird hunting among wide-open crop fields and across rolling terrain that was as natural as pheasant habitat gets. Its weak, problematic ejection, vulgar aesthetics, high recoil and annoyingly violent gun movement is topped-off with a nosebleed price. in front of their join at the monobloc to a point 2" from the muzzle. Secondly, the polyurethane comb cushions any residual impact to your face. The internal recoil system did nothing for me, although I have had 4 shoulder surgeries. My first impressions of the gun, shooting at quick, going-away presentations, was one of seamlessness as it came from the high-ready position to my face. Matine1 - I have the same issue on an 828U. And the birds we encountered were not only tough and of good size, but wary, running and flushing sometimes hundreds of yards ahead of the dogs. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I'd like to hear from thoughts from some owners. But their final question was telling: What is the proper balance between tradition and innovation? The groups consensus advice, he said, was that Benelli must stay true to character. As for the dimensions of the new introduction into the over-and-under market, the drop of the adjustable comb was set at 1.5 inches and drop at the heel was set at 2.25 inches when we assembled the shotgun for testing. Just to clarify, I am interested in the sport model (black steel receiver with SPORT written on the side). I actually witnessed the trigger group falling out of the gun during a round of sporting. When innovation and inspiration collided the 828U was born the first over/under worthy of the Benelli Not sure how far you are from Ogden UT or Salt Lake City, looks like Impact Guns has a few in stock. I tried the 828U a couple months ago. That truism may be one of the reasons why the release of a first-ever over/under produced by veteran semiautomatic manufacturer Benelli was greeted with such fanfare. And just for the record my go to gun is a SBE. Nice shot! came a shout of approval from a fellow hunter, at which point I realized that the 828U had just done exactly what it was made to do: serve as a seamless extension of a hunters body in order to bring game to bag in challenging situations. It's your money - your decision, asking strangers won't really help you decide- good luck. The ammunition, too, obviously, plays an important part, and ours was, somewhat appropriately, an Italian-made Fiocchi GPX offering consisting of 2" shells carrying 138 ozs. I have good things to say about all of them. Once my eye adjusted to the height of its rib and the glow of its fiber-optic bead, I began to routinely connect with clays that were 30 or more yards out and receding rapidly from sightthats with a gun straight off the rack that had not yet been fit to my particular physique. They do support the Franchi line, which isn't exactly an endorsement. Over Under shotguns are considered to be out of style nowadays. My friend that I go to S.D. Be ready for some hate. 67.205.62.133 After that round I omitted the Benelli 828 from my list of "want to try". That the 828U breaks with the tradition of previous over-under shotguns and with all other guns that have come from its family before it is without question. As far as technology is concerned, the Benelli 828U Shotgun stands out from the crowd with the help of next generation of recoil reduction and progressive comfort; custom fit with the QuadraFit Buttstock and Custom Fit Stock that is adjustable drop and cast; and Crio system for more uniform pattern. I've seen/read a LOT more dissatisfied comments and very few positive ones. I bought a Guerini instead with a kinetic balancer and love it. Key to the 828Us operation is a steel breech block that engages corresponding surfaces on the monobloc as the action is closed, containing the firing forces. While pump-action and semiautomatic shotguns are the overwhelming favorite field guns throughout the shooting community, over/unders are the kings of clay-target shooters. I was in Walker MN this week and Reeds Sports had a few. Benelli 828U Sport The action was not at all stiff. I'm seriously into shooting, I'm not a troll, and I have a lot of respect for the knowledge and experience of the people who post here frequently. These old-fashioned scatterguns are often viewed as traditional and many believe they simply can't compare to modern semi-auto or pump-action models. The company promoted the design as Inertia Drivea form of delayed-blowback operationbut, in a twist of literary serendipity, the ID label came to be synonymous with its corporate identity. I don't particularly care for the looks but I'm old school. I can keep both pens in one pocket and write with the one that is bigger and easier to reach. The Benelli 828U is a major disappointment and an outright embarrassment. The internal recoil system did nothing for me, although I have had 4 shoulder surgeries. Both inserting and withdrawing shells and spent hulls, even with a gloved hand, is noticeably less difficult than with many other over-unders and a real boon in the field when reloading. Condor. They are generally not well regarded, in spite of several glowing articles by gun writers. I agree that Gunbroker is showing prices close to MSRP. In late 2017 I was shooting a round of skeet with my .410 winchester 101 and one of the gentlemen in my squad asked if he could try my .410 as he had never shot one. so sure no problem. He offered me his new 828 field ? 712 shot shells at a range of 30 yards, we found the Modified choke in the top barrel produced a 57-43 percent pattern (57 percent above the center and 43 percent below) and the Improved Cylinder choke in the bottom barrel produced a 62-38 percent pattern. They include (l.): a shim kit that offers 40 different combinations of cast and drop adjustment; the Progressive Comfort recoil-mitigation module that resides within the buttstock; and interchangeable cheekpieces that can be swapped out to provide proper stock-to-face fit. In fact, it has been my favorite pen for so long. Kind of a unique looking gun. Also, for the $$, there's a lot of quality gun options competing with it. Shooters of all ages seem to be fascinated with new toys from names they know particularly if the latest and greatest will help break a few more clays or help fill up the game bag a little quicker. I don't think he wants to scratch it! Both versions have sold very poorly and have had issues. A lip at the guards front engages a groove in front of the receiver well, and a spring-loaded plunger at the housings rear locks the unit in place. They made it so Benelli fanboys could have Benelli O/U. Utilizing an inertia trigger system that requires the firing of the first barrel to engage the second, the Model 828U triggers touched off at 4.5 pounds for the bottom barrel and 4 pounds for the top. Everyone that I know that has bought one of these got over them fairly quickly. Im hoping that my new pen is just like that. ETHOS Shotgun Product Manual (11 MB) For: ETHOS Sport Shotguns, ETHOS . She appreciated the buttpad for not hanging up on clothing, liked the matte finish of the carbon-fiber rib and pointed out that the removable breech block would make cleaning easier. They each have their strengths. For more than two centuries, Westley Richards has produced some of the worlds finest firearms, each wearing a timeless and classic look with bespoke flourishes. I shot it and it didn't fit me , pretty sure that I swallowed a couple of fillings that day. It is released by pressing a button at its front. To whatever extent we guessed where they were headed merely validated the instincts of a company that manages to stay one step ahead of the market. Overall, no major complaints were registered regarding the 828Ua testimony to the guns overall design. You must log in or register to reply here. Two versions are available: one with a black anodized receiver and one with a silver-tone receiver said to be the result of a nickel-based treatment. Also, we fired 2.75-inch Nobel Low Recoil Target loads with 78 ounce of No. Our trip to the patterning board before field testing on the clay target range with the Browning was an eye-opener. It is also very comfortable to write with. I have never seen one being shot in person. With this in mind, this is an easy to use pen that you can write with on the inside of your computer. When you are in a hurry, it is easy to forget to hold the pencil, or not to look at your phone. I shot 50 rounds and was impressively sore. You know, the funny thing is that I've probably spent hundreds of hours reading these forums over the last few years. I dont have one, but have fondled one a few times at the local shop. Connecting with birds under such conditions can be a challenge, and it requires a gun that points naturally, swings fast and predictably and is capable of shooting tight patterns. Pressing it fully through its arc first withdraws two barrel locking pins from their recesses in the monobloc then rotates a lever fitted with a roller within the receiver that presses back a cocking plate in the trigger module to load the striker springs. They have sold so few new ones there simply aren't many on the street.Look on Gun Broker. I know the guy that bought it but in the year of Covid I haven't had an opportunity to ask him about it. Download the appropriate manual for your Benelli shotgun or rifle. The only reason to buy one is because it says Benelli. I apologize if I mistook your replies for rudeness. You don't want opinions on the gun, but that's the truth. We should note that the version of the Benelli made available to us was a 26-inch-barrel anodized-aluminum receiver model, while the Browning provided featured 28-inch barrels and a silver nitrite receiver. As to the stock, Vignaroli said, The grip shape and wrist have been developed through studies of different hands and gloves to ensure a better fit and better approach to the trigger. A replaceable polymer cheekpiece allows for changes in comb height, and the Progressive Comfort recoil-mitigation system inside the buttstocka series of interlocking polymer tines that flex to soften the guns movement into the shooters shoulderis capped with a soft rubber recoil pad radiused at the heel to encourage snag-free mounting of the gun.