The ambidextrous controls and MLOK handguard makes for a highly customizable weapons platform. For that price you're retarded to buy that. Pasted as rich text. I think this is a magazine issue, not a gun issue. Trick #4: To fully insert bolt assembly, push the little round spring-loaded thingie at the back of the bolt (this little gem caused me about an hour of extra work to figure out how to get the bolt assembly fully inserted into the upper.) LWRC SMG-45 By DK535, November 12, 2021 in Other Firearms & Non-NFA Reply to this topic Start new topic DK535 Forum Dabbler Members 3 14 posts Trader Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted November 12, 2021 Does anyone know if the SMG-45 is legal to own in NJ? I was about to buy one but like always I try to do my due diligence before making a major purchase . Now they pass on the cost to the citizen. City or County: Roanoke. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. All the groups were consistent and tight and I have NO stove pipe feed malfunctions with ANY of the magazines. In my occupation with my team we needed something to fill the role between pistol and long gun so I have experience with a wide range of sub guns, but being left handed I always had to compromise with certain features and most platforms I used and trained with tended to have ambi controls that just seemed to be added as an afterthought. Still cool as hell though. Haven't had a problem since although only a few mags through it so far, and no issues with two other mags I ordered from LWRC. Took the mags apart and put a light CLP coat on the inside to make the follower slide smoothly. Only drawback to the B&T is the magazines are expensive. I once again was driving holes in a 1inch group from a standing position at 25 yards. map. Fucker shifts all over the place. fan boy but Ive heard less than flattering things about that gun. It's needed since it's recoil operated just like a tilting barrel pistol and extra weight affects it the same way. Calculated in Cart: details: KyGunCo. Stove piped 3 out of 5 shots. meaning It easy to carry to any indoor range without any ammo limitations, shoots smooth for quick/lunchtime shoots, easy clean/maint. Speaking of backpack guns and PDWs, the collapsible length of a mere 15.3 inches with its SB tactical folding brace provides the handler high concealability. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Needs a booster if you want to use a can. I have fed it everything from +P 185 gr, to handloaded 200 gr LSWC and 230 gr ball and it didn't skip a beat. 3-5 rds shot and stove pipe. Clear editor. I like wired operating systems. After reading the responses here, its going to be a no for me. This SMG-45 is in excellent condition and comes with (2) 25 round magazines, pistol grip tools, manual, and the original box. LWRC SMG45 apparently has major accuracy issues tacarl2808 Jul 28, 2020 1 2 3 Next tacarl2808 Frontiersman 80 0 Jul 28, 2020 #1 Garand Thumb posted a review showing 8 inch groups at 17 yards, while also shooting inch groups with other PCC's at the same distance. I really like mine. I have put 700+ rnds through it. Same suppressor works flawlessly on my Sig P220. LWRCI SMG 45 Specifications Make: LWRC International Model: SMG 45 Action Type: short-recoil-delayed, blowback-operated, semi-automatic, center-fire pistol Chambering: .45 ACP . I LOVE LOVE LOVE this PCC. Also didn't seem to like plated bullets, and if I'm not mistaken the bolt carrier actually cracked and was messing with the way it functioned. Serial number is in late 1100s with Winchester white box 230 gr. Does anyone have one yet that could shed any light on what its like in person? *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. But $3k That's top end pricing man. April 29, 2019 at 23:33 The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. The blowback design really reduces recoil. It is as gassy as my AR45 build. Please enter your username or email address. What a failure and waste of serious talent. LWRC SMG .45 (This magazine is the factory OEM magazine for the LWRC SMG 45) Gideon Shadow .45 Tommy Built Tactical .45 Other applications where they use the HK UMP style 45 magazine Specifications: Capacity: 25-Rounds Fits: All HK UMP45 firearms Compliance: Each magazine counts as 3 US-made complaint parts Made 100% in the USA Steel feed lips Secondly, it does NOT stop the rounds rattling in the magazine though its not quite as bad as before. Answer (1 of 15): The AR market is so flush right now that that the cheapest AR style rifle is actually an AR-15. The fact that its not a simple blowback design is nice, the design seems pretty robust, and I like the fact that it shoots an inherently sub-sonic round. I'd pass. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. Cookie Notice Maybe get a good one or a dud hoping Lwrc knows whats causing it and is able to fix it . Con's a little pricey, early jams until mags loosened up, first few disassembles and reassembles were frustrating. They are awesome. LWRC SMG 45/Striker 45, serious issues Garand Thumb 2.84M subscribers 24K 594K views 2 years ago https://simplisafe.com/garandthumb SimpliSafe is award-winning home security that keeps your. Not prone like in the video. Today we're reviewing the updated version of the LWRC SMG 45! Ships with 2 25 round US- manufactured UMP magazines with Paddle Style mag release for easy load and mag changes. Perfect truck gun for conceal. https://youtu.be/BIPCn-aYMoM, I have been waiting four years for this gun, honestly I was afraid it was vaporware. The item you are trying to purchase is currently out of stock.Please enter your name, email, and phone number below. Just about the coolest looking piece of shit ever made. I know its not gonna be some precision shooter but I also dont want to have absolutely terrible groups at 20 yards, Im waiting for mine to be sent back from LWRC was having feeding issues with the v1 mags with or without my sil co osprey With booster even disassembled the can and cleaned and oiled the booster with the same results never got a chance to check accuracy since the first test was so disappointing that I immediately sent it back they claimed they will test with an osprey I hope they test accuracy as well since they now know its a problem SN 15xx. Like the Glock 19x, Sig MCX Rattler, FN 509, and many other firearms originally developed for contracts, the LWRC SMG-45 popularity draws increasing demand from civilian customers. Shit hasn't changed in 15 years. Developed for the needs of a government contract back in 2015, this submachine gun (SMG) as LWRC calls it only recently came available in a pistol version available for the general public. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Had a small hiccup with the mags at first but lwrc's great reps got it squared away fast! Like so many others have said, this weapon is stupid quiet with the suppressor. Look at the no-name guy who got a million hits for his new Python failing video. He regrets the purchase. I dont think LWRC will sell a lot of them at that price, but its worth it, at least to me. $3k for a short-recoil PCC? Theres about 100 other options for guns that can realistically be used in the unlikely event of a home invasion while youre home. Been following it since it was announced. I feel for the guys that are struggling with accuracy issues, but I'm not one of them. After a couple of days at the range this is one of my favs right up there with my Tavor X95. Display as a link instead, FS/FT NEW - RADICAL FIREARMS RF-15 RIFLES AVAILABLE IN 5.56, 300 BLACKOUT, AND 7.62X39 FS Tag Heuer Formula 1 Chronograph (New Updates! Payment Options: *. Sorry, but what makes this better and more expensive than a B&T APC 45? High end shit that works. I got to handle one at my LGS. Too busy at work. As far as what this articled gun offers to me? Easy take down and assembly. That is awesome. At just under $3,000, this is a pretty expensive range toy with sub par accuracy. Got mine the other day SN 21##. I read his review. To be fair, Id bet you had the exact same level of bullshit with MP5s and other HK shit two decades ago when the Rainbow Six games were all the rage. It's a great gun but we prefer the B&T APC45 to the LWRC SMG. What am I doing wrong? All Rights Reserved. ), yes Ive looked at the b&t but it just looks awful to me . They've apparently fixed my gun. Retail is $2995. I just kind of have an overall level of disgust with them due to the influence of CODMW3/other games. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.2 lbs and compact folding to a mere 15.3" Listening closely to shooters, operators and consumers, the SMG .45 Pistol design features compact ergonomics with unique performance features including: an 8.5" Cold Hammer Forged Chromoly Steel Barrel, LWRCI user-configurable rail systemwith strategically placed Picatinny segments, LWRCI Rail Panels at 3,6 and 9 with hand stop,LWRCI Fully ambidextrous lower controls, LWRCIUltra Combat Grip, New and Improved Advanced Fire Control Group, Magpul MBUS Pro Sights and more . Dont tell me about the top sold of anything. LWRL04-0038C01. DSG got three of them in, but I was already on the list for one. Meet the first model in the SMG Family - the new LWRCI SMG .45 Pistol. It was happening when shooting normally, as well as suppressed. The gun will not group better than 6 to 8 inch groups at 25yrds. Check it out. The right side of the LWRC SMG-45 features a bolt release and bolt catch that mirrors the AR-style one on the left side. Store Price Shipping rate Show more; Prepper Gun Shop. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Your friend will receive an email from you with a link to our site. Mine has been fine on both counts but I haven't shot it much recently. Question any one have one of the new smg with the 4 in the serial number? If your the person who want suppressors on everything, then 45 ACP and 300 AAC are your favorite choices. I keep coming back to look at that picture. $ 2,499.00 For sale is a LWRC SMG-45 semi-automatic pistol in .45 ACP. Money better spent on More AMMO. These versions all come with an 8.5 barrel, the SB Tactical SBTi folding subgun brace and two 25-round magazines (or less capacity depending on how much Freedom your location allows). I guess Im old fashioned. LWRC says they've resolved the issues and from my testing yesterday, it appears they are correct. ALL of them were having stove pipe issues. So, got a surprise shipping email from LWRC this past wednesday. Mine has been flawless and is fun to shoot. They did indicate it would be using 9mm UMP-pattern magazines as well. by 3dcart Online Store Creator. One new winner* is announced every week! No, its not a popular handgun cartridge, because when you have to hold a double stack 45 handgun it always feels like a behemoth. Colt found that strategy to be unproductive. Cant say enough good things about it. Theyll sell a lot more of these things if they cut the price to a grand or so. Thats kinda ridiculous. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Its junk. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. You either have a bad disconnector, very loose trigger/hammer pins, a bad spring, or an incorrectly manufactured lower. I've got a long time relationship with the company, so they take pretty good care of me. SMG 45. Compare prices for 850006403509 - LWRC International SMG Pistol 45 ACP SMGPB45B8S from all vendors. That's all I really wanted. We've been shooting it next to the new B&T APC9 Pro and I have to say the recoil is very similar. freqchance SMG-45 reliability problems. On anything with a longer than 6 barrel, I agree with you. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I hope they can get the price down to more realistic levels Fit, finish, and design are fantastic (though for the consumer market I could have gone for M-LOK slots rather than LWRC's own attachment system). The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. A $3K toy that most people couldnt afford to keep fueled. 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I admit Rangers first thread didnt make it sound like it was worth the $$. Naturally, the muzzle is threaded. You must log in or register to reply here. Garand Thumb is pretty neutral and at least he is transparent with any relationship he may have with whoever's product he is testing. Without adding too much length on to any host firearm, this SiCo suppressor is one of the most maneuverable on our 45 ACP suppressor list. Only reason for 4-stars is the lack of good takedown/reassembly instructions in the manual, and/or the lack of a good online video instruction guide on the LWRCI web site. Now I ordered a Macon Armory gas upper. Benefits: Lightweight AR-15 style ergonomic design. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Comes with two magazines. No range time to proof any of this yet. I saw the video from NRAAM with the rep, this SMG started as a solicitation which never went throughat the point the deal fell through, it should have been immediately reconfigured for 9MM. PASS. Update on my Non-V1 Magazine. LWRCI's SMG 45 is built to the highest quality standards of any SUB-GUN on the market today. 600$ or less and lose the AR buffer tube mess and trigger pin snaps. Gunprime reserves the right to modify or change pricing information or descriptions without notice. Ive had no failures shooting white box and federal hst. RangerTrace Reply More posts from r/LWRC. Login for Special Pricing. Are they still making these? My brother who is an Engineer also fired it- and no issues with zeroing in at 25 yards using a Holosun HS510C sight. This baby eats everything and is now my full time travel companion (sorry mpx-k) totally worth the wait an the price. Help Support the site and gain access to the Feed, see fewer ads, and get a new icon under your name showing you're a supporter! LWRL04-0056C01. All firearms ship from our APPROVED FFL Dealers. The magazine has been loaded but the gun has never been fired. Im a big fan of the UMP, and this looks like it will be a good alternative to that! So I guess the accuracy issue is not the bolt. His reviews on BEnos are what steered me away from buying one. I don't feel like such a moron when I clean it. 81 rounds at my disposal topped off with a Leopoldo DPP. Realistically, its no different from all the tools who grew up reading too much Soldier of Fortune in the 70s and 80s. Takes range time from my 1911's and other handguns with similar portability and much better accuracy at distance. That is sweet, but that price tag Wow, kinda surprised you actually got one, let alone two. Mostly the lower grip . They aren't the first to start trying to find a culprit part, tolerance, CNC machine, forge error, mold error, etc. Is it classified as a pistol? (Which happens in under 2 seconds from a full giggle switch equipped Vector.) Magazines in mine feeding great now. Ambidextrous features: Selector switch Magazine release Bolt catch/release "LWRC's innovation applied to the subgun world - very . Using the factory V1 mags, I put through 25 rounds of Federal aluminum case and 25 rounds of 230 ball reloads. But I wanted a short .45. You get all the muzzle velocity increase youll practically see with LWRCs barrel length, a caliber begging for a can, and a half-inch thumper of a bullet out the end. MAP. By popular demand, LWRC confirmed that they are working on a 9x19mm version of the SMG-45, but did not confirm a release date. If you want to spend less than half for a legit 45 ACP AR upper, get a Macon Armory DI45. Awesome! After watching garand thumbs video Im on the fence . a unique delayed blowback mechanism. New From LWRC: SMG-45 .45 ACP SBR and Pistol, NYT Reporter: LaPierre Unanimously Re-Elected, Its Official: LaPierre, All NRA Officers Unanimously Re-Elected Without Opposition, Meadows Elected President, Kiger Updates the 9c Compact With the New Kiger-9c Pro 9mm Pistol, Smith & Wesson Announces the New M&P FPC Pistol Caliber Carbine, Whats In Your Wallet? I found it odd that there was a quiet time between when he got it, had issues and then sold it. @RangerTrace (trusted member of multiple forums) had one and sold it quickly due to reliability problems. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I've got 3 LWRCI rifles and they've been rock-solid tack-drivers, with almost no quality issues except for one SMG magazine that needed tuning. LWRC- Love it. I have a UMP clone built off an Omega Shadow upper that runs great. Every time i open this thread it makes me glad i didn't waste my money. I was really looking forward to buying one soon but now I'm going to have to hold off. The SMG-45 was released at the end of 2019 but at SHOT 2020 LWRC had more to say about the platform. The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Paste as plain text instead, I elected to take the suppressor off and fine tune the zero. Yeah, but what kinda short-sighted clown specs a new SMG in .45 ACP at the first offering? 3k for a new gun that might shoot like sh!t is a real bummer for sure. I think that tiny micro (Think MP5K / Vector) PCCs have a place in home defense and personal protection. Trick #3: On reassembly barrel 1/4 turn ccw - collar angle section (a) visible (down), and (b) toward front Well there for sale at Omaha fire arms right now and Im not buying it ( right now ) . It includes panels to aid in gripping a hot firearm following continuous strings of fire and a handstop to prevent the user from shooting their hands similar to other backpack guns like the new Daniel Defense DDM4 Personal Defense Weapon (PDW). The mags are the issue to me. Unfortunately for LWRC, the MP5, MPX, and CMMG banshee all do it a lot cheaper. It takes approximately 2 seconds to remove and another 2 to reinstall, so long as you . It looks the titties, 100% agree, but IMO anything that's $3k should eat whatever you feed it without bitching. Now that ive mention it 1 of the two LWRCs ive seen was a jamomatic and the other didnt do anything a free gloated M&P doesnt do while being hundreds less and looking nearly identical. My distributor has backorders for 1k+ units, and so far has received zero fro LWRC. In the firearms industry often times you get what you pay for, and although the delayed blowback system is more expensive to produce, it keeps you on target and lengthens the firearms life due to lighter parts wear. Been badgering my local dealer to find me one when no one could find them. Generally speaking I fail to see the point in a semi-auto subgun. If Biden's plan goes through, I'll probably SBR it. 2.7kg. SHTF Preparedness. I sure hope they get it figured out and soon. So basically its no better than UMP. Developed for the needs of a government contract back in 2015, this submachine gun (SMG) as LWRC calls it only recently came available in a pistol version available for the general public. GunZoneDeals. Well, probably not near you, but it is just a click away here at GUNPRIME. Your email Had not noticed a problem at all. inclined who could definitely screw this process up I'm hoping something as simple as this Is part of the problem . NEW SMG .45 PISTOL. There have been multiple people claim the same issue. Im sure Im not alone. Thread starter Dschapp44; Start date Oct 24, 2019; Forums. I shoot with a SilencerCo Omega 45K (with Neilsen/Booster) and sight is a Vortex AMG UH1 and it's totally solid at 10 yards, 25 yards, 50 yards, and I've even had some fun hitting 24"x24" steel plates at 200 yards (about a 50% hit rate). Ambi Selector Switch. Grouped like shit, mine is damn consistent in its groupings. It is very shootable (word?) Is it possible you have the barrel screw too loose, or too tight? You people need to learn to post pics of stuff I know nothing about. $19.99 for firearms: details: Primary Arms. All Rights Reserved. LWRC surprised everyone at NRAAM this year by releasing a completely new platform, the SMG-45. While every effort is made to include accurate and correct images, descriptions and pricing for all products, inadvertent errors may occur. Voyager1 Sergeant of the Hide. Length: 6.36". You should have no problem finding one." If you don't have an optic yet, then no worries it ships with robust Magpul MBUS PRO backup iron sights that won't fail you when it counts. Curious what Lwrc says . Mine has ran flawlessly for approximately 1500rds now, No accuracy issue for me, but the bolt shattered around 1,000 rounds. Privacy Policy. When I talked to them at SHOT Show, they were like, "Oh yeah, we're cranking them out as fast as we can. 0.450.45ACP. and they will not be the last. I have really wanted a .45 PCC for a while & I think the LWRC is the modern day Thompson. (Especially if you SBR them.). Your link has been automatically embedded. Pics/specs/details? Jun 30, 2022. It's such a great little package on 45. And the former is accomplished by other PCCs half the price. Not to go too far off topic but Perhaps HK UMP, since they set the Mk. Follow Our Other Media Pages: @rshgungroup Show more LWRC SMG 45 Overview 4.7K views 1 year ago 9mm vs 45 ACP, WE END THE. Its a delayed blowback system that will suppress well if the gun works as advertised. For more information, please see our The safety lever is ambidextrous, too, as is the paddle-style magazine release under the rear of the magazine well. Data collection LWRC now needs data. This, in conjunction with good effective . This is a great shooting little gun.. Classifieds 258 Location:Montgomery, Alabama Posted December 9, 2021 Discover Is the First Gun Store Transaction Tracking Credit Card. Switched the brace to a tailhook and swapped in a Geissele GRF single stage and it has been incredibly accurate with Winchester White box so far. Grab a drink this might get long winded!! gunbroker rgf7018 Burnt Bronze DI w/ Vortex Razer too much color? Suppressed is pure butter, flat and fast. Lwrc never responded to my design flaw email or at least not yet. Mind you that during this zero phase I was using BOTH the V1 mags and the non-V1 mags and the 15rd mag. Until .45 PCCs are more reasonable in price ill pass. Please contact a dealer from our Accuracy has been good not great, but Im still getting used to the short LOP of the brace. you will not feel that way with the controls of the SMG-45 if you're left handed. But when you can have those 25 rounds hanging off the gun just forward the trigger then youve drastically changed a factor in caliber choice. no info: . Mine (SN: 000118) continues to run great. After repair, the accuracy is still good. The first batch of the much anticipated LWRCI SMG .45 has shipped earlier this week. SMG-45LWRCISIX8ICAR-15AR-15 UMP SMG-45 2016LWRCIUMPSMG-45 SMG-458.51:16.57828.40/45SMG-45LWRCI Found a Kriss Vector in .45 for a third of the price that shot a much tighter group. . Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. 23 up to also run Super and have a idea of what it takes..?? Typical LWRC quality. Well, probably not near you, but it is just a click away here at GUNPRIME. That dude just needs more traffic and web hits to drive revenue. Curious what Lwrc says, Just shot mine at 15 yards off a bag on a bench seated. I'm thrilled to hear that this rifle is finally shipping. The other shot just fine. SMG .45 FEATURES: Fully Ambidextrous lower controls: AR Selector, bolt catch, grip and hammer/trigger allows easy operation for right or left handed shooters Innovative Paddle Style Mag release. Always. I looked into this too, BTDT. Ships with 2 25 round US- manufactured UMP magazines with Paddle Style mag release for easy load and mag changes. . Yet, it still fired when the time came. Sponsored Radical Firearms Socom RPR 556 Nato AR-15 Rifle. If they designed it for 45 ACP then its probably built to handle every other popular pistol cartridge: 9mm, 10mm, 40S&W, 357 Sig, etc.
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